Danish freedom, liberal values and national sovereignty put to the test

 
   
 

Denmark has become a symbol of freedom of speech in Europe. Perhaps the last country in Western Europe, which has not yet succumbed to political correctness and the whims of the New World Order, when it comes to censorship and severe restrictions on free speech.

The pressure of islamists world wide, including burning of embassy's and death threats towards those involved in the publication of the so called Muhammed Cartoons, did not make Denmark stray from its course. Pressure from Jewish organizations, the EU and the Jewish / German justice minister to deploy the same totalitarian legislation which made Germany, past and present infamous, so far was to no avail.

Legal to discuss WWI history and the holocaust

In Denmark one can still discuss WWII history and the holocaust, without risking going to jail. There is no ban on Nazi symbols or National Socialist literature, and there is even a tiny but entirely legal Nazi party. Serious incidents involving these Nazi's are very rare in Denmark, contrary to the situation in Sweden and Germany, where strict laws prohibit most displays of National Socialist symbols and literature.

Police report: Most violence from the left

In fact, in the newly published report (2006 - 2007) from the Danish secret police (PET), it is stated, that most political violence in Denmark is committed by left wing extremists, who often initiate clashes, by attacking demonstrations etc. organized by Nazi, right wing, and anti-islamic / anti-immigration organizations, activists, politicians and political parties. Racist violence towards immigrants is extremely rare in Denmark, compared to many other places in Europe.

Now this freedom loving Nordic spirit will once again be put to the test.

Arrested on German orders

On demand from the German justice ministry, the Danish police has arrested a German and a Danish citizen accused of distributing Nazi music to Germany. A few days ago the Danish police searched a house north of the capital Copenhagen, and found loads of CDs and other material, which allegedly contain Nazi propaganda.

Now this is not necessarily a crime in Denmark, but it is in Germany, where there is a maximum sentence of five years imprisonment for what is commonly known as 'thought crimes'. In Denmark there is legislation, carrying a maximum sentence of two years imprisonment for grave discriminating utterances directed at ethnic and religious groups. So far these laws have been used with restraint, and where convictions have resulted, the punishment has been limited to suspended prison sentences, fines, and in a few cases imprisonment up to 30 days. [This is from memory]

Now the demands from the German justice department are threatening to undermine traditional Danish freedom of speech, and could result in a historical new area of dissident persecution, if the call from the German police (BKA) would be heeded.

In this process no doubt using the various tactics designed by the European Union such as the European Arrest Warrant under which Europeans will be obliged to extradite their own citizens on demand of other European countries will be exploited. Under the European Arrest Warrant, citizens could be extradited to member states, without having their case tried before a Danish judge, as an informal bureaucratic procedure. I have no time here to get into the intricacies of these laws here.

Denmark has several (4) exceptions from general EU rules, amongst which judicial policies (covering e.g. immigration), military cooperation (EU army), the Euro currency, and 'EU citizenship'.

The Danish Constitution explicitly forbids that censorship will ever be introduced again.

Down here I'll post a translation of a transcript of a news program which announced the arrest of the offenders


Transcript of news clip from TV2 News August 27 - 22:00

TV2's Natasja Crone (reporter):

  Stephan G.
Stephan G.
  Stephan G. was one of the speakers at NSF's demonstration for Ernst Zundel and more freedom of speech July 7 2007 Watch interview in English with Stephan G. at the Danish page
   
   
  Arne Stevns Public Prosecuter
  Arne Stevns Public Prosecutor
North Sealand's Police
   
  Uffe Østergaard
  Uffe Oestergaard
  The holocaust industry beneficiary Uffe Oestergaard has been waiting for this chance for years. He has often displayed his 'democratic attitudes' by posing as one who is against the suppression of his ideological and historian opponents. Now it is easy to see that he really was only waiting for a good chance to have critics and dissidents silenced since he now welcomes German thought and speech suppressing rule over Denmark once again!
Mr. 'Human Rights' Østergaard who calls himself a historian, apparently has not learned all that much from history after all. Should we learn from the Germans, or should we figure that the Danes after all have been quite a bit more succesfull at averting totalitarianism ?

Two men were arrested today in Denmark, accused of spreading racist so called 'hate music' in Germany. According to German law it is forbidden to sell Nazi propaganda, and the question is, if Denmark will extradite the two men to be prosecuted in Germany.

It would be the beginning of a whole new policy if the Minister of Justice chooses to extradite the two men.

Voice: Several boxes containing right wing extremist material were impounded, when Danish police today arrested the two men, a Dane and a German citizen in the North Sealand district. German police suspects the two men of spreading Nazi materials in Germany.

Uffe Oestergaard (Jean Monnet professor and leader of a holocaust propaganda institute):

Denmark has served as a postoffice, eh expedition center for eh, forbidden nazi and racist writings, especially to Germany, but also to Sweden, but also what we call 'hate music'.

Videoclip: Clip from music video on the Internet where the German government imposed obligatory views on history and the statistics involved are being mocked is shown. [To my ears in a detestable style, but as far as I have heard no incitement to violence, as can be found quite often in gangsta rap music distributed by main stream media, which has made a number of people rich and famous in stead of sending them to jail!]

Voice: It is video's such as this one the two men are accused of spreading.

Arne Stevns Chief Prosecutor of the North Sealand police:

In Germany they are suspected of spreading racist material, which is a criminal offence according to German law, and perhaps also according to Danish law.

But it is because of an extradition request from Germanny, that they were detained.

Voice: Now the Germans demand the extradition of the men, but that would be a new practice in Denmark.

Uffe Oestergaard: Basically we have the very sympathetic and probably also wise political attitude in Denmark that, ehm, that it is better not to forbid things, but to let them appear in the open, and then counter that with arguments.

That is why Nazi propaganda, Mein Kampf and other things are not forbidden in Denmark.

Voice: Nazi Propaganda is forbidden in germany and Sweden, and the question is, if Denmark should change policy to please neighboring countries..

Uffe Oestergaard: Personally I would think that would be eh, a wise thing to do, because the countries are so close to each other, and it is not showing much solidarity, one could say that we have been a expedition centre, or a fencing center (sic!) for others, for something which is forbidden in neighboring countries.

Natasja Crone: And the Minister of Justice now has ten days to decide if these two men will be extradited.

 

End of transcipt TV2 News 27 august 2008

Extra information: The two men; the German citizen Stephan G. (32) and a Dane named Flemming C. (33) were supposedly organizing the distribution of the Nazi music through a company named Celtic Moon.

The broadcast can be seen in Danish here or here.

Danish version of this transcript here:
Balder Blog 27 august 2008 - Dansker og tysker risikerer at blive udleveret til Tyskland for udspredelse af nazimusik


Ernst Zündel - Det nye forbedrede Amnesty International
The New Improved
Amnesty International
 
Lene Espersen
Lene Espersen - Justice (?)

Arne Stevns apparently is the same prosecutor who is instrumental in fulfilling the wishes of a certain group og people who wish for the extradition from Germany of the Danish Nazi collaborator Soeren Kam (89), now a German citizen living in Germany.

Soeren Kam has been involved in the murder of a Danish citizen during the war, but one of his Nazi associates has already confessed to the murder. In spite of Kams irrelevance as 'a Nazi war criminal' (the murder has been classified as a personal vendetta, not a war crime), Kam is number five on the list of most wanted by the Zionist propaganda Centre founded by Simon Wiesenthal. The German government has refused to extradite the old man on several occasions; Germany does not extradite its own citizens.

Human trafficking

Now there are speculations going on, if Denmark and Germany are going to engage in some kind of dirty deal. Human trafficking for political purposes.

After the publication of the world famous Muhammed Cartoons and the Danish nations fierce stance against censorship from islamist quarters, it is going to be very interesting to see, if pressure from the present oppressive censorship crazed German regime is going to do what death threats, burning embassy’s and lost business revenues could not accomplish.

This topic has been touched in another TV broadcast from TV2 on the current topic. It can be seen here. (Danish)

I have already explained the differences between the German and the Danish 'hate speech laws'.

Of course I am not suggesting that the alleged Nazi offenders not be prosecuted in Denmark, if they are found to have broken Danish law.

Crossing that fine line

But if Minister of Justice Lene Espersen will sink so low as to extradite Danish citizens to the repressive Federal Republic of the Germany, or as I expect will try to introduce new and more restrictive legislation, a fine but immensely important line will be crossed.

No extradition in the light of recent events

I do not actually expect the German extradition demand will be complied with in the first instance.

Zypries - Hitler

This would be an act difficult to justify after the Muhammed Cartoon Crisis, and several other recent court cases, such as the case against Hizbut Tahrir, and the current case against the two Tunisians who plotted to kill Muhammed cartoon artist Kurt Westergaard. In another recent criminal case involving extradition, a decision by the Danish Justice department to extradite a 41 year old woman accused of being involved in
the smugling of ecstasy pills to the US was overturned in court.

But the forces calling for control and censorship become stronger and stronger every day.

Just a few days ago, the AJC, the American Jewish Comittee demanded the popular CNN anchor man Lou Dobbs and others stopped from what they call spreading racist anti-immigrant propaganda, and their German counterparts the German Jewish Council (Zentralrat der Juden in Deutschland) has demanded even stricter laws in Germany after a few swastikas appeared on the gigantic holocaust monument in Berlin.

This is not just about some crummy Nazi videos ...

If anyone should think this case is just about some crummy, stupid and detestable Nazi music videos, think again.

This is only a much wished for opportunity to further the efforts to criminalize the much broader non Nazi opposition to the islamification of Europe, Zionism and the globalist agenda of the New World Order.

 


Related:

Dansk 2014 jan 27   Nationaldemokraten: Tiltale om distribution af “ulovlig musik” nedlagt Stephan Günther og Flemming
Dansk 2014 jan 24   Realisten.se: Stephan Günther riskerar inte längre femårigt fängelsestraff för olagliga toner
Dansk 2011 nov 28 Ingen ytringsfrihed i Tyskland: David Duke arresteret forud for foredrag (With video German English subtitles)
Dansk 2010 feb 09 Michael Hoffman: ‘Tales of the Holohoax’ og de danske Muhammed-karikaturer 
Dansk 2010 feb 09 England: Sheppard og Whittle dømt for karikaturtegninger - sammenlagt 5½ års fængsel 
Dansk 2009 aug 08 Camilla Broe - Endnu et offer for den Nye Verdensordens globaliseringsvanvid: Terrorlovene
Dansk 2009 jul 12 England: Sheppard og Whittle 4 år og 10 måneders fængsel for holocaust-karikaturer 
Dansk 2009 jul 03 Video: Camilla Broe udleveres til USA - Offer for misbrug af terrorlov fra 2002
Dansk 2009 jul 02 Camilla Broe skal udleveres til USA - anholdt i sit hjem i dag - risikerer 60 års fængsel 
Dansk 2009 apr 17 Australien: Tankepolitiet dømmer Revisionisten Fredrick Töben - Hjemmeside nedlagt
Dansk 2009 mar 16 Irland: Europæisk arrestordre for 7/7 benægter Anthony John Hill (The Ripple Effect)
Dansk 2009 mar 05 EU-parlamentarier Elmar Brok kræver europæisk arrestordre for biskop Richard Williamson
Dansk 2009 feb 23 Dänemark: Zwei Männer nach Deutschland ausgeliefert wegen Nazi-Musik
English 2009 feb 23 Denmark: Two men accused of distributing Nazi music to be extradited to Germany on Tuesday
English 2008 dec 23 Denmark: Alleged Nazi-music distributors' extradition appeal failed in High Court (Victims released pending trial)
Dansk 2008 dec 22 Landsretten stadfæster udleverings-dommen over angivelige nazi-musik distributører
Dansk 2008 dec 20 Denmark: Alleged distributors of Nazi-music fight extradition - Verdict on Monday December 22
Dansk 2008 dec 19 Dom i sagen om angivelige nazimusik-distributører på mandag 22 december
Dansk 2008 dec 05 Den 19 december starter appelsagen om udlevering af to borgere til Tyskland
Dansk 2008 nov 21 Statsadvokat Andreas Grossmann, Mannheim opgav at få Fredrick Töben udleveret
Dansk 2008 nov 20 Igen nederlag til Tysk STASI justits: Udlevering af Fredrick Töben opgives
English 2008 nov 15 Sweden refuses to extradite Danish Nazi-music distributor
English 2008 nov 03 European Arrest Warrant extradition victim Flemming - TV interview
Dansk 2008 nov 01 Interview udvisningstruede Flemming - Den Europæiske Arrestordre - En fængslende succes
Dansk 2008 okt 30 Britisk domstol siger nej til tysk krav om udlevering af tankeforbryder Fredrick Töben
Dansk 2008 okt 24 Franske, italienske og tyske historikere vil af med holocaust-benægter-love
English 2008 okt 23 Denmark: Alleged Nazi-music distributors extradition case in court in Elsinore
Dansk 2008 okt 22 Angivelige hademusik-producenter for retten i Helsingør
Dansk 2008 okt 21 Retsmøde i Helsingør 21 oktober kl 13 - Udleveringssag om hademusik-producenter
Dansk 2008 okt 13 Gerard Batten, britisk EU-parlamentsmedlem: Er vi i gang med at skabe en Euro-politistat?
Dansk 2008 okt 11 Balder sagde det, nu kan Asger Aamund også se det (OIC censurlove efter jødisk forbillede)
English 2008 okt 07 German law now also applies in Denmark - neo-Nazi music producers to be extradited for thought crimes
Dansk 2008 okt 07 Tysk lov gælder nu også i Danmark - Musikalske Nynazister udleveres for tankeforbrydelser
Dansk 2008 okt 06 Udlevering for tankeforbrydelser - Ingen kan vide sig sikker for EU lovenes lange arm 
English 2008 okt 05 Extradition: Fredrick Töben, Danish Nazi music producers, 86 year old Nazi Soren Kam
Dansk 2008 okt 04 London: Holocaustbenægter Töben fremstillet på retsmøde om tysk udleveringsbegæring
Dansk 2008 okt 02 London: Fredrick Töben, australsk revisionist arresteret i Heathrow lufthavn
Dansk 2008 okt 02 Lovens Tyranni - Euro-politikorpset og den Europæiske Arrestordre
Dansk 2008 sep 25 Nazirock - Nyt om fængslede og udleveringstruede nynazister - Celtic Moon
English 2008 aug 28 Nazi propagandists in Denmark demanded extradited by Germany
Dansk 2008 aug 27 Dansker og tysker risikerer at blive udleveret til Tyskland for udspredelse af nazimusik
Dansk 2008 aug 29 Betingelser for udlevering til medlemsstater i Den Europæiske Union
English 2007 apr 18 In a note to the Danish Parliament Lene Espersen had denied that the EU ‘framework agreement’ would change Danish legislation:
Denmark: Justice Minister Lene Espersen accepts EU deal introducing censorship in Denmark
English 2008 jun 09 Jewish Involvement in Immigration and Hate Speech Legislation - Britain
           
English Dansk --- -- Søren Kam, Erik Haaest, Wiesenthal Centeret - Index of articles
           
          External
Dansk 2009 feb 25 Altermedia - Stephan Günther und Flemming Christiansen von dänischen Behörden an Bundesrepublik ausgeliefert
Dansk 2008 dec 23 Berlingske Tidende - Kim Behnke (K) tilfreds med udlevering af nynazister (af Signe Bjerre)
Dansk 2008 dec 23 Avisen - Naziudlevering støder DF (Jonas Sahl får det til at lyde som om..)
Dansk 2008 nov 23 Dronten - Det anti-racistiske Europa som juridisk galehus
Dansk 2008 nov 17 Politiken - Danmark går enegang i udleveringssager (af Søren Astrup)
English 2008 nov 21 Jailing Opinions - Total victory in Töben case
Dansk 2008 nov 20 Nordbruch.org - Dr. Friedrich Töben ist frei
English 2008 nov 20 Timesonline - Holocaust denier Fredrick Toben wins German extradition fight
Dansk 2008 nov 17 Politiken - Forsvarer: Ytringsfrihed skal også gælde nazimusik (af Søren Astrup)
Dansk 2008 okt 31 Politiken - Landsretten skal afgøre udlevering af hadmusik-sælgere (af Søren Astrup)
English 2008 okt 30 Geoffrey Alderman - Denial is not a criminal matter
English 2008 okt 29 Telegraph - Gerald Toben - Holocaust denier Dr Gerald Toben wins extradition fight (MSM links video & audio here)
English 2008 okt 26 European Jewish Press - Danish court rules extradition to Germany for suspected neo-Nazis
English 2008 okt 25 The Independent - Chris Huhne: Holocaust denial and a case that shows flaws in the EU
Dansk 2008 okt 22 Frankfurter Rundschau - Historiker Der Kampf um die Erinnerung von Arno Widmann (Protest gegen holokaust Gesetz)
English 2008 okt 18 Sydney Morning Herald October 18, 2008 - Aussie awaits German extradition verdict
English 2008 okt 17 Index on Censorship - Extradition will make Dr Toben a martyr (Chris Huhne)
English 2008 okt 16 The Guardian - Timothy Garton Ash - The freedom of historical debate is under attack by the memory police
English 2008 okt 08 Rense - Philip Jones - Toben Outrage - Fascist Europe Show's It's Teeth
English 2008 okt 03 UKIP - Gerard Batten - Creating a Euro police state? (Fredrick Töben)
Dansk 2008 okt 03 Non Konfirmist - Europäischer Haftbefehl: Australischer Historiker in London verhaftet
Dansk 2008 okt 04 DSFHF - Tyskland krænker stadig ytringsfriheden - anholdelsen af dr. Töben
English 2008 okt 05 Dr. Fredrick Töbens home page - Adelaide Institute
English 2008 okt 02 Index on Censorship - Does Britain have a Holocaust denial law?
English 2008 okt   FPP A Radical's Diary - David Irvings article with lots of links about the case at the bottom
English 2008 okt   Brits at their Best - The Tyranny Of The Law. The Euro Gendarmerie and the European Arrest Warrant
English 2008 okt   The Holocaust Doctrine and the Hypocrisy of Western Values: A Commentary on the Case of Fredrick Toben
English 2008 aug 23 Politiken - Germany demands hate music extradition
Dansk 2007 apr 19 Politiken - Lene Espersen Minister: Racismelov er et vigtigt signal
Dansk 2007 apr 18 Politiken - Lene Espersen: EU vil ikke ændre vores racismelov
Dansk 2007 feb 15 Politiken - Danmark under pres i EU's kamp mod holocaust-benægtere
English 2007 okt 08 Daily Mail - New law means anti-gay comments could lead to seven years in jail (nu også til udlevering til andre lande!)
English 2005 mar 23 Beeqube - Austrian Cartoonist Gerhard Haderer faces Greek jail for blasphemy
Dansk       Europa Kommissionen - EU-arrestordren i funktion
English 2001 mar 01 Good overview and details about persecution of revisionists:
Amren - Return to the Dark Ages - Censorship is on the rise. Is it coming to America?

Se tidligere TV2 udsendelse 27 august 16:44 - Tidligere udsendelse på TV2

Artikel hos TV2 Nyhederne

Fyens Stiftstidende 28 august 2008 - Anholdte afviser at lade sig udlevere

Nyhedsavisen27 august 2008 - To mænd anholdt for nazi-musik

Tagesschau 27 august 2008 - BKA meldet Festnahme Verdächtiger (Schlag gegen rechtsextreme Musikszene)

Balder Blog 1 juli 2008 - Fransk dissident på flugt efter fængselsdom og økonomisk ruin

Balder Blog 20 jan 2008 - Østrig - Gerd Honsik - Halvandet år i spjældet for 'wiederbetätigung'

Tankeforbryder blev bortført via to lande og fik syv års fængsel fængsel i Tyskland - Ernst Zündel


Balder.org - Articles about Holocaust, Zionism, Judaism, Jewish Censorship, Israel Lobby, persecution, Revisionism, Holocaust-denial


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