Danish Parliament discusses ban on religious circumcision

Video with English subtitles further down

 
  Male Circumcision - Controversial Procedure
 
  Steffen Kretz - DR News Anchor
 
  'Doctor has seen complications'
 
  Dr. Preben Kirkegaard
 
  Keld Koplev - Born and Raised Jewish
 
  Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner
 

Before becoming Denmark's Chief Rabbi, he was working as a kosher butcher.

Circumcision is not only a religious, but also a national practice

Circumcision is called Brith Milah in Hebrew, and is the name of the pact the Jewish people made with the patriarch Abraham See 1. Mos. 17 v.11-12. It is the Jewish viewpoint, that the circumcision of boys, is the completion of God's creation, where parents unconditionally stand before God and demonstrate that they are ready to follow the Biblical laws, which generations have observed for 3000 years.

It is a tradition which according to the opinions of many has secured the existence of the Jewish people. An individual such as Spinoza mentions that this ceremony not only is a religious practice, but also a national practice. In other words; many parents who are non practicing Jews, wish to have their sons circumcised in order to have an exterior mark of being part of the Jewish people. Quote from: Bent Lexner om omskæring af jødiske drenge | Balder post

 
  Circumcision performed by Bent Lexner gone wrong according to Dr. Preben Kirkegaard
 
  German anti circumcision Poster
Fingers off my Willy

Religious circumcisions are unjust and must be banned immediately!

Denmark - Physician accuses Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner of causing damage during circumcisions

Here some transscript of a TV Programme aired by the main Danish public service channel Danmark's Radio on Wednesday July 18 at 18:30 hours.

Studio host Steffen Kretz: One of Denmark's leading pediatricians, has accused the leader of the Danish 'Mosaic Religious Community' [Mosaisk Trossamfund], the largest religious organization among Denmark's estimated 7000 Jews, of having mutilated young male infants when they were circumcised.

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: 'We have seen examples of all the skin of the penis having been taken off, also when performed by Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner.

Steffen Kretz: The accusation is categorically denied by Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner who has circumcised more than a thousand newly born infant boys.

Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner: It was me who took care of the Jewish circumcisions over forty years, and there were done about a thousand, and there has not been one complication...

End Intro

Steffen Kretz: A heated debate about circumcision of boys is now culminating with an accusation against the leader of the Danish Mosaic Religious Community

The accusation comes from the former leader of Rigshospitalet's Department for Child Surgery.

I must warn our viewers for some unsettling images we are going to see now.

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: There we can see; all the skin has been removed of the whole penis...

Speak: Unsettling images from Rigshospitalet's Child Surgery Department

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: It is a wound because all of it is a wound

Speak: The former head of the Child Surgery Department, Preben Kirkegaard, has photos from the department where he during twenty years up to 2010, has seen a number of cases of circumcision of young boys gone wrong.

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: During my time at Rigshospitalet, there were brought in several boys each year, who were circumcised 'down town', as it is called,

Speak: In many cases far too much of the skin had been cut off.

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: ... and some of them were about to bleed out completely, I must say, their lives were actually endangered.

Speak: But the recent days discussion of circumcision of primarily Jewish and Muslim boys, earlier today caused the head of the Jews in Denmark to stress, that a ban of the ritual practice would chase the Jews out of Denmark.

Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner: We would pack our suitcases as soon as possible, and end 400 years of Jewish life in Denmark.

Speak: One of those Jews who were circumcised at an early age however, does not agree.

Keld Koplev: It is torture and mutilation of male infants. Why should a rabbi, who doesn't have a medical education, be able to do that? Cutting into other people, cutting into children, I don't understand.

Speak: Still Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner claims that during the 40 years he has practiced, there never have been any problems in connection with the procedure.

Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner: Because it is me who has taken care of the Jewish circumcisions, through 40 years, and there were about a thousand, and there never has been one complication.

Speak: But according to Senior Surgeon Preben Kirkegaard, this is an outright lie.

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: His is lying if he says that it never happened.

Speak: Because he has been forced to assist several boys who were circumcised by the Chief Rabbi's knife.

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: I have seen examples of cases, where things didn't go the way they were supposed to, also by his hand.

Speak: One of them has been photographed here (mutilated penis picture shown).

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: That is [the result of] a procedure performed by the Chief Rabbi; Lexner.

Speak: The boy in the image has had cut away the skin entirely

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: He has been in danger in connection with the bleeding.

Speak: Preben Kirkegaard continues to work as a doctor, and with the cases he has seen in mind, his verdict about circumcision is clear:

Dr. Preben Kirkegaard: It is child abuse

Steffen Kretz: Good evening Bent Lexner, these are tough accusations against you. It is child abuse, we hear the Doctor say.

And he says, that he has had boys who were circumcised by you in his care, who were mutilated because there were complications, what do you have to say to this criticism?

Rabbi Bent Lexner: First I would like to say that it actually is true, that there has been a situation that I know about where parents that I knew, went to the hospital, where Preben Kirkegaard apparently was on duty at the time being, and what I mostly remember from that case, is that the parents were completely shocked about the treatment they had got.

That this doctor, who now has some opinions about the case, they were shocked by his attitude. He ripped off the bandage, and I have seen the pictures some years ago, I can understand they can perhaps appear dramatic, but I just want to put it to the Doctors attention, that that is the way a circumcision looks, completely natural without problems.

Steffen Kretz: But the Doctor directly says, that, sorry to interrupt, he says directly that you are lying when you say that there have been no complications with the many circumcisions you have performed through the years. What do you say to that accusation?

Rabbi Bent Lexner: I would like to say that it is true; I am sorry that I did not point that out at a that time, when I was interviewed in a car, That I should have said that there had been an example that I knew about at the Rigshospitalet [hospital]

But I'd like to say, that it ended with, that the reason was that there were problems with a virus in the child, and there is nobody who is informed about circumcisions, who will allege that I have destroyed anything at all, that is an unreasonable accusation, which only has something to do with attitudes.

Steffen Kretz: But the doctor says that it not an isolated case, and that there have been more examples.
I would like to ask you: Why should you circumcise thousand very young boys, when you don't have a medical education?

Rabbi Bent Lexner: Excuse me, but I was with guarantee, longer than any Doctors here in Denmark, enrolled in an education program about learning how to circumcise. For two years I took part as a trainee several times a week, I have learned the medical rules, have learned how to do it, how to handle pain, how to do the bandaging, and a lot else. So don't come with these kind of allegations. And by the way, I have circumcised more infants than most of those doctors who express an opinion about this case.

Steffen Kretz: Thank you very much Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner, for being on our news program today

Footnote

1) Rigshospitalet, situated in the capital Copenhagen, is considered to be one of Denmark's most prestigious hospitals

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Danmarks Radio News July 18, 2012
 

Danish Parliament discusses ban on religious circumcision

Since a German Court in Cologne last month presented a ruling, which effectively bans infant male genital mutilation (circumcision) for religious reasons, of under age boys, as well as a proposal to ban this practice in the Norwegian parliament, which was also set forward last month, a heated discussion about the religiously motivated ritual mutilation of young boys from Muslim and Jewish families, has also surfaced in Denmark.

From the US there came recent reports of two infant deaths [Danish here] and several serious complications in others, after infection with herpes virus by Jewish Mohels who practice 'child penis fellatio', or 'infant penis blood sucking' ritual.

A number of parties, amongst which the Danish People's Party, that is known to be extremely positive towards Jewish interests and the state of Israel2), as well as the immigrant friendly left wing radical party Enhedslisten, and several other parties are positive towards a ban of this archaic religious practice.

Footnote

2) Danish People's Party (DPP) [Dansk Folkeparti] - It remains to be seen if the DPP will keep up its support of the ban. On a former occasion, the anti-Muslim and pro-Zionist party itself presented a proposal to ban religious slaughter of animals, which gained wide support in Parliament. But at the decisive moment, the party took the proposal off the table again, and one of the party's MPs, a Lutheran Priest, Jesper Langballe now decided [Google Translate] that the Jews' 'age old religious customs' were to remain legal. On another occasion, the party decided to support the funding of a Mideastern / European 'integration' project, 'The Arabic Initiative' [Det Arabiske Initiativ] [Google Translate] which the party had vehemently opposed for years, when it was promised that Israel could join the program.

Deutsche Übersetzung - German Translation:

As der Schwerter 21 Juli 2012 - Dänemark: Führender Kinderarzt beschuldigt Oberrabbiner Bent Lexner, bei Beschneidungen Schäden angerichtet zu haben – Dänisches Parlament diskutiert Verbot religiöser Beschneidung

Related:

Balder Blog 13 februar 2013 - Denmark: Politician from the patriotic philo-semitic Danish People’s Party supports genital mutilation of boys and girls (Marie Krarup, Katrine Winkel Holm, Jesper Langballe, Søren Krarup, Katrine Lilleør)

Balder Blog 1 januar 2013 - Tyskland - omskæring: Kandidat for de Grønne tvunget til at gå af pga. digt mod religiøs børnemishandling (Ulf Dunkel)

Balder Blog 4 december 2012 - Østrig - Omskæring: Muslimsk læge og rabbiner meldt til politiet for legemsbeskadigelse (Anja Oberkofler, Schlomo Hofmeister, IKG)

Balder Blog 14 oktober 2012 - Omskæring: Jøder sagsøger New York over regulativ om afsutning af nyamputerede drenges blodige tissemænd (Intact America forment adgang til lægekongres & Kristen Zionisme - Stig Grenov)

Balder Blog 2 september 2012 - Israels overrabbiner: Hvis Geert Wilders støtter forbud mod ritualslagtning er han ikke ven af Israel og Jøderne (Yona Metzger, Manfred Gerstenfeld)

Haaretz 31 august 2012 - Israel’s chief rabbi warns Dutch populist Geert Wilders (extreme Zionist) over kosher slaughter ban (if you don't support it you are the worst anti-Semite in Europe)

Balder Blog 13 august 2012 - Penislemlæstelse: Drenge fik amputeret tissemand efter omskæring - tisser nu gennem plastikrør

AKnews - Kurdistan 13 august 2012 - Twin boys’ genitals amputated after circumcision op goes wrong (Bryar Mohammed)

Balder Blog 20 august 2012 - Pussy Riots danner skole: Anti-omskæringsaktivister vil lave happening i synagoge

Balder Blog 17 august 2012 - Tyskland - Omskæring - Nye kritiske toner om religiøs penislemlæstelse fra parlamentsmedlemmer

Balder Blog 1 august 2012 - Omskæring - Penislemlæstelse - Også ikke-jødiske børn med sekulær dansk mor truet (Omskæring: Mig og Jøderiet - film af Ulruk Gutkin som dokumenterer omskæringspres på ikke-jødiske mødre)

Balder Blog 27 juli 2012 - England: Omskæring - Igen et spædbarn død af religiøs penislemlæstelse udført af rabbiner (Med et overblik og citater fra den helt aktuelle danske debat på Politiken og Information)

Politiken 25 juli 2012 - Hvorfor er omskæringsfortalerne så stille? (af Morten Frisch)

Balder Blog 24 juli 2012 - Østrig: Delstat stopper med religiøs omskæring efter forbud i Tyskland og Schweiz

Balder Blog 28 juni 2012 - Norges Centerparti vil også forbyde genitial lemlæstelse (omskæring) af drenge

Jewish Telegraph Agency 25 juni 2012 - Norwegian gov’t coalition partner seeking to outlaw circumcision

As der Schwerter 18 juli 2012 - Kann Deutschland ohne Beschneidung überleben?

Hammersmeden 15 juli 2012 - Merkel vil tvinge tyskerne til at acceptere den jødisk/muslimske penislemlæstelse

Kristeligt Dagblad 2 juli 2012 - Det tyske folk har en anden holdning til omskæring end deres politiske og religiøse ledere

Das Beschneidungsverbot ist trotz kontroverser Diskussionen nun rechtskräftig
Fokus.de 30 juni 2012 - Verbot der Beschneidung - Juden und Muslime fordern Korrektur des Urteils

CBN News 28 juni 2012 - Wiesenthal Center outraged: German Circumcision Ban Rooted in Anti-Semitism?

The Anti-Defamation League on Wednesday expressed strong support for the call by the Jewish community in Germany for parliament to quickly pass legislation specifically protecting circumcision as a religious practice. The ADL noted that circumcision of newborn male infants is a “core religious rite of Judaism.”
Jerusalem Post 26 juni 2012 - 'Germany must pass law to protect circumcision' (Lahar Harkov)

Hammersmeden 26 juni 2012 - Domstol i Tyskland forbyder religiøs omskæring af muslimske og jødiske drengebørn

Balder Blog 12 juni 2012 - New York: 11 spædbørn smittet med herpes pga. af penis-sutning ved jødisk rituel omskæring

New York Daily News 3 marts 2012 - Baby dies in circumcision

Balder Blog 8 september 2011 - Explosive Danish research: Circumcised males and spouses - higher risk for bad sex life (Dr. Morten Frisch)

Balder Blog 7 december 2009 - USA lovforslag: Omskæringslobbyen vil rutinemæssigt omskære alle amerikanske drenge

Balder Blog 22 september 2009 - FBI investigates Danish Chief Rabbi Bent Lexner, Jewish lawyers and businessmen in corruption case

Balder Blog 4 december 2008 - Omskæring - Forræderiske præster: Kathrine Lilleør i seng med fjenden

Balder Blog 3 december 2008 - Omskæringsdebatten der blev væk - Et amputerende fællesskab

Balder Blog 19 november 2008 - Hollandsk video med engelske undertekster - Mother, why was I circumcised? + Video Martin Krasnik forsvarer kønslemlæstelse i Deadline

Balder Blog 17 november 2008 - Dansk Folkepartis Jesper Langballe forsvarer nu omskæring af drengebørn (Her også en oversigt med links til blogs der omtaler problematikken)

Balder Blog 25 august 2007 - Norge - Jørgen Lorentzen: Rituel omskæring af drenge en bestialsk skik der bør forbydes (Med citater fra Lexner, Blum, Krasnik, etc. Video lavet af omskæringsoffer og meget mere - Psykologisk baggrund bag betydning af blodritualer)

Goldberg - Knyt sylten - Benjamin Krasnik interviewer Martin Krasnik om omskæring

Foreningen mod drengeomskæring

Per Holm Knudsen - Nej til omskæring af børn

Sexually Mutilated Child Org - Where Is My Foreskin? - The Case Against Circumcision (Paul M. Fleiss, MD)

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